THE FUTURE IS HERE

What Sam Altman said to me before leaving OpenAI

Professor Kenneth Stanley has just launched a brand new type of social network without any popularity contest of likes, which he calls a “Serendipity network”.

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https://twitter.com/kenneth0stanley
https://www.kenstanley.net/home

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Original MLST show with Kenneth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhYGXYeMq_E

TOC:
00:00 – Introduction
02:14 – Sam Altman Story
04:43 – What is Maven?
16:08 – Cofounders
16:59 – WGCNBP
23:00 – Link to RL
27:45 – Natural Plausibility / How Far Can We Go?
33:59 – Jim Fan
36:47 – Picbreeder
43:54 – Language Game
49:40 – Creativity
58:15 – Why did Kenneth do Maven?
1:10:15 – Agency + Politics Lens
1:12:06 – Agency Deprivation on Left and Right
1:17:47 – The Ultimate Divergent System Is the World
1:22:04 – Why is high agency social good?
1:25:27 – Agency or Deceptive Objective (FB)
1:31:20 – YouTube Debasement
1:38:21 – The Space of Creativity, Measuring It
1:40:32 – Market System / Profit
1:43:14 – Agency to Power Seeking
1:48:01 – Is Serendipity == Power Seeking?
1:55:19 – Morality
1:59:24 – Accounting for Our Intrinsic Drive to Explore (+Friston)
2:05:27 – Pure Exploration? Any Planning?
2:07:55 – Most Social Media Users Consumer
2:11:24 – Echo Chambers
2:13:47 – Is Social Media Broken? Maybe Edit, A Bit Like WHY Question
2:18:02 – AI X-risk
2:25:03 – Agency Interpretation of Kenneth’s work
2:35:23 – Status Game
2:47:16 – Facebook
2:54:26 – Cold Start Problem
3:03:44 – Convergence from Other Platforms (Maven)
3:06:29 – Objectives Creeping in Later
3:08:15 – Will Zuck Copy?
3:09:51 – Panopticon / Social Identity