Overcoming depression: The self is a fiction | Joscha Bach and Lex Fridman

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Joscha Bach is a cognitive scientist, AI researcher, and philosopher.

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Comments

brigham2250 says:

Honestly, I didn't quite understand what he was saying. If the self is not real, then why do we have laws protecting the self?

James Berragan says:

The universe must be deterministic because I know everything a materialist is going to say before they say it.

TimmacTR says:

He got fat or what?

Lance says:

What does it mean, "We're all these individuals, and everyone has to be one of them, and eventually you're stuck with one of them" or that we're mostly randomly instantiated on the 'substrate'?

Have a Nice Day says:

"Our memories and expectations make us unhappy"

I'm going to remember this quote for a long time.

Yaqdan Z says:

Russian program he said

hank thayer says:

A friend used to say, when everything was going completely crazy, "It's only a movie…it's only a movie…"

vanLouw says:

As someone at the lowest point in their life, this made me feel more depressed.

Aisha Roy says:

That was a deep tweet. I wonder how many sub tweets would be needed to explain the original one.

RidingtheEventHorizon says:

WHAT AN INTELLECTUAL. ITS NOT DEPRESSION, ITS OPPRESSION. WE ARE SPIRITUAL BEINGS NOT BIOLOGICAL SOFTWARE. READ THE BIBLE, AND HAVE A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH YESHUA THROUGH THE WORDS ON THOSE PAGES. IF NOT, GOOD LUCK WITH TRYING EVERYTHING ELSE. SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT FOR YOU.

Dan Rafuse says:

Was that the first question of the interview? Have you experienced depression? Wow! That was impressive, and very refreshing. Thanks Lex.

straightedgerc says:

The essence of mental health is to be free of needing to withdraw into a small mechanical box inside your face, the brain. Mental health starts with the journey to learn there is no such information system or flow of electricity that should be called “I” or “myself” that fits inside a grapefruit sized box looking out at the world. Observation by an individual awareness “I” or “myself” can be described as placing the observer on one side of a looking glass and the observed on the other side of the looking glass. The observer cannot be the observed since they are separated by the glass (an idea called duality in philosophy). But then paragraphs about awareness could not exist since then the author is the observer and also the author is the observed. Hence, the description of “I” or “myself” as an individual awareness looking through a glass at the outside world is not correct. There is only our observation there is no looking glass involved in awareness and that therefore no individual awareness exists looking out through it. No self is observing, instead, no self is the observation, an idea called Atman in Hindu and No Self in Buddhism.

matthew stroud says:

What a pile of steaming crap.

Gator Gator says:

What brand name suit is that?

Anthony Fransella says:

"I can't continue living…[Insert horrific story of life here, maybe about the gruesome death of a child]"
Joscha: "Don't worry, your child never existed anyway, and neither do you."

Stay away from AA meeting , cool?

Marcin Fil says:

Lex you seem like a smart guy but please stop pushing this idiotic notion that we are a piece of code. This from a software engineer.

Billy A says:

Hi Lex, Please bring a theologian to your podcast. It'd be interesting to get their point of view, and answers to your questions. You are a fair interviewer, and could help shed light on many of the mysteries that religions offer.

Thomas W. says:

cherry picks the most miserable parts of buddism with none of the fun stuff. Spoken like a true scientist

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