The Global Mind, Collective Intelligence, Agency, and Morphogenesis – Michael Levin Λ Joscha Bach
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LINKS MENTIONED:
- Michael Levin (Solo TOE podcast): https://youtu.be/Z0TNfysTazc
- Michael Levin Theolocution With Chris Fields & Karl Friston: https://youtu.be/J6eJ44Jq_pw
- Joscha Bach Theolocution With John Vervaeke: https://youtu.be/rK7ux_JhHM4
- Joscha Bach Theolocution With Donald Hoffman: https://youtu.be/bhSlYfVtgww
- Joscha Bach (Solo TOE podcast): https://youtu.be/3MNBxfrmfmI
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:55 Bach and Levin speak about each other's work
00:03:34 The cell functions as a neuron
00:07:15 Software as a control pattern
00:10:55 Disciplinary boundaries in academia
00:14:38 The perceptron is a "toy model" of the brain
00:18:44 How do you identify yourself as a researcher?
00:20:10 The benefits of podcasts vs. academia
00:30:04 Beliefs of Bach's and Levin's that have drastically changed
00:38:54 Memory moves outside the brain structure
00:45:06 Engrams and memory storage
00:47:30 The implications of transferring memory between species
00:55:25 Weissman's barrier
00:59:25 The notion of "competence" (Bach's and Levin's largest insight)
01:12:10 Virtualization for unreliable hardware
01:16:02 Defining "competence"
01:22:35 Bach's issues with goals (for and against teleology)
01:27:34 Planarian goals and explicitly encoded instructions
01:34:55 Navigation in "Morphic Space"
01:36:11 One species' birth defect can be another's benefit
01:37:42 The "Intelligence Trap" and bias
01:39:05 Application of each others' work to their own
01:52:25 Necessities of general intelligence in cells
This theolocution has been released early in an ad-free audio version for TOE members at http://theoriesofeverything.org.
Sponsors:
– Drink Trade: https://www.drinktrade.com/everything for 30% off
– Ro Man: https://ro.co/curt for 20% off first order
– Masterworks: https://masterworks.art/toe
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Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e
Subreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything
LINKS MENTIONED:
– Michael Levin (Solo TOE podcast): https://youtu.be/Z0TNfysTazc
– Michael Levin Theolocution With Chris Fields & Karl Friston: https://youtu.be/J6eJ44Jq_pw
– Joscha Bach Theolocution With John Vervaeke: https://youtu.be/rK7ux_JhHM4
– Joscha Bach Theolocution With Donald Hoffman: https://youtu.be/bhSlYfVtgww
– Joscha Bach (Solo TOE podcast): https://youtu.be/3MNBxfrmfmI
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:55 Bach and Levin speak about each other’s work
00:03:34 The cell functions as a neuron
00:07:15 Software as a control pattern
00:10:55 Disciplinary boundaries in academia
00:14:38 The perceptron is a “toy model” of the brain
00:18:44 How do you identify yourself as a researcher?
00:20:10 The benefits of podcasts vs. academia
00:30:04 Beliefs of Bach’s and Levin’s that have drastically changed
00:38:54 Memory moves outside the brain structure
00:45:06 Engrams and memory storage
00:47:30 The implications of transferring memory between species
00:55:25 Weissman’s barrier
00:59:25 The notion of “competence” (Bach’s and Levin’s largest insight)
01:12:10 Virtualization for unreliable hardware
01:16:02 Defining “competence”
01:22:35 Bach’s issues with goals (for and against teleology)
01:27:34 Planarian goals and explicitly encoded instructions
01:34:55 Navigation in “Morphic Space”
01:36:11 One species’ birth defect can be another’s benefit
01:37:42 The “Intelligence Trap” and bias
01:39:05 Application of each others’ work to their own
01:52:25 Necessities of general intelligence in cells
